Atlassian CEO Mike Cannon-Brookes Rejects 'SaaSpocalypse' Narrative, Says AI Is Increasing Tool Usage
Atlassian CEO Mike Cannon-Brookes told The Verge's Decoder podcast that AI is increasing use of the company's tools rather than killing SaaS, and defended the value of design and human users while discussing layoffs and a broader skills shift.
In the conversation, recorded from Atlassian's home base in Australia, Cannon-Brookes described Atlassian as a platform that enables businesses to collaborate and manage work across teams. He said it connects business and technology teams to handle difficult work problems in a single platform, and serves organizations that treat software and technology as a core competitive advantage. The platform, he said, lets teams collaborate on content, manage projects and spread knowledge across strategy, operations and service teams.
The interview touched on how AI could change the value of that platform. The Verge noted that AI tools might be able to read all the different tools and systems a company has, making a big migration to Atlassian less enticing. Alternatively, if the SaaSpocalypse thesis is right, AI might build those tools directly, threatening the entire category of software-as-a-service businesses. Cannon-Brookes pushed back on that view, according to the interview, and spent time discussing the value of design and human users. He also said AI is actually increasing usage of Atlassian's tools, and discussed what the company's future could look like a few years from now.
The Verge described Atlassian as one of the companies that other companies run on, citing products such as Jira and Trello. Jira helps organize large software engineering teams, file tickets and prioritize problems and tasks, while Trello operates at the individual level. The company's tools also allow people to manage big teams, create shared databases of company information and generally allow work to happen. Cannon-Brookes said all of Atlassian's products are different expressions of a single core platform, a structure that shapes both how Atlassian is organized and how the products are built.
AI has also changed Atlassian itself. Like many other technology companies, Atlassian carried out a round of layoffs earlier this year. Cannon-Brookes said he felt the company needed a different 'mix of skills.' In the interview, he was asked what that mix should be and how AI is changing what it means to run a software company. He was also direct about what AI cannot do, and he pushed back on comments by Cloudflare CEO Matthew Prince, a friend who had recently appeared on the show and discussed AI eliminating what he called 'measurement roles.'
The Verge said Cannon-Brookes recorded the conversation from Australia, which meant a deep discussion about org charts at 5 a.m. local time. The interview also examined Atlassian's platform strategy, the value of design and human users, and what the company's business could look like a few years from now.